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Well, here I go... down the rabbit hole of what ends up being a convoluted mess that is Windows licensing. Ugh.

I have approximately 20 developers and programmers that are using virtual machines (VMWare) that are running Windows 7 and 10. I have been using retail versions of Windows as it seems that OEM versions cannot be used for Virtual Machines.  So, my question is, is there an easier way to acquire licenses for these VM’s? Enterprise licensing says it is for 500 or more users. As I only have around 120 users, that is obviously not what we want.

I have been looking at Open Value licensing but do not have any experience with it and am not sure which vendor to use. Can someone please share their experience with how they handle virtual machine licenses. Is there a best practice? Can I just purchase a subscription? I appreciate any help anyone can offer.

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Hi,

unless something has changed with Windows 10, you need SA for virtualising client OS. If the accessing machine is a company owned Windows client, you need SA for that and you're done. If it's a no-Windows and/or non-company-owned device, you need VDA for the user or device. It's also a subscription based model.

You might want to look into Microsoft 365. Maybe you can license Client OS VMs with that, I'm not sure.

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Evgenij,

Thanks for your response, as always, and please forgive me in advance for being thick. We are a Dell shop and have been for years. I order a workstation or server with an OS, add it to the domain, give it a user (or a role) and voila... it runs till it is retired. The idea of software assurance has really never come up or been an issue. Therein lies the rub, I have no idea where to get SA. I have put in requests to Dell and CDW hoping that they can assist, but apparently I am asking the wrong question because they seem to be as confused as me.

AND, even if I can find this elusive SA, (this is the 'forgive me in advance for being thick' part)  I don't know what the hell do I do with it once I have it. Can you please speak slowly and use little words so that I can understand where to acquire SA and how to use it.

Thanks again for your assistance!

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Lane,

Microsoft licensing is not for the faint of heart so you‘re not being thick and there’s no need to apologize.

The second part is easy: once you’ve acquired SA for X workstations you file it away and tell Accounting that there will be recurring costs from now on. On a side note, SA for workstations gives you the right to use MDOP so that would be an added benefit.

As to where to get it... in this part of the world I would talk to a Microsoft Reseller and they either would sell me the agreement or refer me to a higher qualified reseller. I would expect a DELL rep to know where to go to, though.

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Its been a while i knew this, and this used to be a vecd license with win7, now vda. If you use a desktop os for pruduction, tou need this license. I found a good source from a ms mployee here:
https://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/124053-licensing-windows-10-with-virtualization-technologies-how-to

But if you use the desktop os’s just for development/testing and not running production (so like creating ms office documents and doing email) there is no need for the vda/sa licensing. If thats correct, you can use a tecnet or msdn subscription which have the keys and licenses to run desktop os’s in virtual environments or development purposes.

My info could be out of date, so double check with your reseller, they should know this.

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For the developers you can get Developers licensing. That is licensed by developer type and allows the licenses user run all sorts of software. It's not cheap, from 800 to 1500 euro per developer. Can't remember if that's per year or 3 years.
Find a good license reseller and they will help. If you five Dell a lot of money each year they should help as well.

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