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Wes

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Years ago on our dear departed forum (and a few other places), when I first got my IPhone 3g and configured activestink on it, I predicted the fall of RIM and their crackberry empire.  I had more than  few people tell me I was nuts and a silly Apple fanboy (which is hilarious considering the kinds of things I typically have to say about Apple).

When I first set up Hyper-v on 2008r2 I commented that VMWare was headed for the same fate if they didn't shift gears.  I don't think they have or did (at least not quickly enough) and I think they're feeling it now...

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/64213/layoffs-at-vmware-to-impact-workstation-and-fusion-virtualization-products

http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/26/vmware-confirms-layoffs-in-earnings-statement-as-it-prepares-for-dell-acquisition/#.ianhlaz:gMsd

"Consider that on October 7th just five days before the Dell deal was announced, VMware was rolling along with a share price of $82.09. By October 21 the price had plunged to $55.42, and even though it stabilized a bit after that, it still continued to drop. The price as of close today was below $50 at $49.30."
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Not so sure I'd agree.

VMware still have the "we want it to work" virtual sector fairly well as theirs.
Hyper-V is better - but if the experts in Microsoft Azure can't give me a decent uptime on a simple DC I'm still going to question its credentials as a competitor.

If you look at where they were /are going, its Citrix and the VDI/ CBC environments they are now seeing as expansion markets and that is where one of the reports have the job losses.

I may be wrong, but we're still shipping more VMware out the door than Hyper-V, with less on-premise issues and downtime. 
Ask me in another 2 years, maybe I'll owe you a pint.

Dave Bisson will be a good measure....if they are considering reducing their VMware spend, then maybe. 


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For myself a big hyperv 2012 R2 shop, the issue I have with Microsoft Efforts resolves are SCVMM which has been poor in capabilities and reliability compared to Vcenter. the actually hypervisor is solid. will see what Azure Stack will now offer...
But for public Cloud Azure or AWS is the way to go.
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I have and still see H-V vs ESX as small/medium org versus big org.

Big orgs want well-understood stuff that they can find tons of people for.

Small/med orgs often haven't done any virtualization but like "free" and so are willing to go H-V.

As with the NT 3.1 days, MS will worm their way into the big orgs eventually and then start jacking prices.

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I work for an MSP and I see the shift, mainly due to costs, which is always the win-all, unfortunately.
I do agree that VMware is still better than Hyper-V, but when you have an EA with Microsoft, and that licensing is included, it is a huge savings if you replace VMware with Hyper-V. 
Yes, there is a learning curve, but Hyper-V is much better in 2k12r2, so the costs win, again.

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Referring to the original post, I'm wondering about the relative difficulty to move from Blackberry to iPhone compared to VMware to Hyper-V.

In my previous position, I managed (on a small scale - maybe 20 some mobile users) the transition from Blackberry to iPhone/Android (and a handful of Windows Phones) based on user preference.

It's been a couple years now but it seems like there was not much to do - other than let ActiveSync do its stuff - and then decommission the BESX server.

I would think that migrating from VMware to Hyper-V would be a significant undertaking, less so for a small organization (probably more prone to migrate for reasons stated above), but very much so for a large organization implementing all kinds of additional modules (?) like SRM.

I suppose there's a number of ways to evaluate this...

1. Brand new customers that choose Hyper-V where they would have chosen VMware in years past.

2. Customers running their organization on VMware already, with larger organizations (I would think) less likely to make the change (given the complexity).

So is there a move to Hyper-V from VMware (or just away from VMware to something else, Citrix or RedHat, etc.)?

Are there any big names (Fortune 500 for example) that have made the move?
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