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So it looks like there was a meeting of the EU leaders yesterday and the EU decided on 2 things. One, there won't be any negotiations to leave until they are officially notified by the UK (Cameron said that he's going to wait for his successor to do that). The second thing they talked about what type of trade deal between the UK and the EU after separation will look like. Sounds like the UK wants full access to the EU market, without allowing the free movement of people between the EU and the UK. But the EU doesn't sound interested in allowing that because it defeats part of the purpose of having the EU in the first place.

http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21701448-many-brussels-still-hope-article-50-will-be-delayed-indefinitely-european-union

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I'm not getting everything you're saying, sorry.

The Spanish and the Brits take your fish?  Because the EU says they can?  That sounds like a bad thing.


We gave up our Fishing rights in the EU for farming rights.
Bad idea, but the farmers are a stronger lobby than the fishermen.

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When you say, "free travel through Europe," I get something like that now... I fly to some EU country from the US, stand in a line to get admitted to that country and from that point on, there are no barriers to travel.
I definitely see the freedom from need of work visas, no question on that.  But I do a few jobs in the EU every year and there never seems to be that much hassle.

Trust me, worse than getting into the JFK Airport on Valentines Morning.

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I too found the "it's our Independence day" cry hilarious.

Should hear what they are spouting now... 

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I'm not certain that it's the EU that's kept the peace -- I'd credit a lot of it to the nuclear standoff in the cold war and afterward, although I could be wrong.  I mean, consider that no one's been at war with Russia/USSR on their soil since 1945, and the only attacks on US soil in that time were from NGOs.


But we are a volatile lot, with a lot more internal terrorism that most media cover and a lot of tribal, traveling, rural ethnicities, covering a lot of forked religions and beliefs.
No, no-one has bothered Russia in a long time. but since the US has stopped goading them, look what they are back doing...conquering, over-throwing, coveting their neighbour's goods.  

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The EU must be a good thing for Eire

Ireland please.

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-- yesterday when I was looking at national financial rankings I noticed that you folks have the second-highest per capita GDP in the EU after Denmark.  (I was surprised that Denmark was in the EU!)


They made Denmark vote twice for Masterick Treaty.
We're rich because Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Pfizer, Boston Scientific etc (odd, all the rich parts of the companies have 18 employees, 32 Billion euro in sales) report out of Ireland. Take out the FDI, and we drop a bit.
Denmark is up there because of Bacon :-)  No, they do well.

 
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So if Scotland and Northern Ireland leave, will Wales follow?  It will be interesting for sure.


Nope, they haven't figured out where the money is coming from yet.

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We're rich because Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Pfizer, Boston Scientific etc


Huh? What about Whiskey & Vodka & Beer..?

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Joe -- why is "Eire" bad?  Wikipedia says it's just the Celtic word.  Thanks!
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From what I have read it's considered as pandering to the British.

http://www.ibiblio.org/gaelic/Eire/7.2.html

http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/translation/topic51033.html

http://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2054992105/4

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1694655






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Well, here's a fun fact about the UN.

It's the UN's fault that ATM (Asynchronous Transfer Mode - a WAN protocol once heavily used) was 53 Bytes (48 + 5 for overhead).

IP packets have a 64 Byte minimum size.

So each IP packet had to be split into, at a MINIMUM, 2 ATM "cells" to go across an ATM link.

France (and Japan) lobbied for 32 Bytes: they could go completely across their own country without needing to add expensive codec (coding/decoding) equipment at either end if the data stayed inside their own country.

EVERYONE else lobbied for 64 Bytes (obvious reason above).

The UN mediates (via the ITU, the IT arm of the UN).

So they tried to make everyone happy by going down the middle at 48 Bytes.  [smile] 

The UN.
effing you up, 1 packet at a time.
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Yes Ireland has had many names.
For me it's a preference thing.
But yes the English used it a lot and as a point of argument.
Going through the border when the British army was patrolling you you would be asked all sorts of rubbish called an Eire bas×@×@×@÷ and anything else to get a rise out of you so they could pull you out of the car and have some fun. Well fun from their point of view.
That stopped around 1997 maybe 1998, but it's left it's mark.

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Boris Johnson. The new foreign minister.
Brilliant, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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That one puzzled me, but I figured that it was just because I'm not British.  Sort of like Hillary making Donald her Secretary of State.  
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People, seriously, are we really surprised that Trump and Brexit are happening?

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Well, Trump... that's not surprising.  Barack Obama became president because he was the ABC candidate ... Anybody But Clinton.  Trump is just this year's version.  

As to Brexit, I don't live there so I don't live with the things that chafed them.  Personally I only VISIT Europe and because I enjoy the diversity of the cultures AND because I'm just guessing that a federated Europe can only remain federated if the cultures homogenize then I kinda hope that Brexit works, but again I really don't have a say in the matter and shouldn't have one... it's just my myopic view across the pond. [smile] 

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Both countries have a lot in common. From a distance I'm quite amazed at the British and American voting system, taking the same 'representatives' approach. 
Now am not saying that our system is perfect, far from it. Assembling a government from the mismatch of votes divided over 13 diverse political parties is a challenge I admit. But it hardly seems fair though to not take in account everyone who voted. I think it forces parties to polarize and take a much harsher stand on views than necessary.

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I think many thinking Americans have always thought the same way, Ton.

We really need viable third parties but our system just doesn't engender them.

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In the USA:

We have four different generations alive at the same time for the first time in history (millennials, genX, boomers, silent).  We have the most free trade ever and the most outsourcing ever.  The elites that work public/university/political jobs that don't have to fear outsourcing are now versus blue collar workers who are 55 and now realize they are obsolete and left behind.  Furthermore, those that have college degrees in a manufacturing field (e.g. textile chemistry) are also being laid off in droves.  And now, after being told to get jobs in STEM, those of us with degrees in computer science are watching in abject terror as the very jobs we were promised are now being destroyed by renowned companies such as Disney and Suntrust.  Even MS has had massive lay offs.  Is anyone really surprised that Brexit happened or Trump is happening now? 

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One of the leg puling web sites in Ireland had this today.
http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2016/07/27/eu-ask-britain-if-theyre-fucking-going-or-not/?utm_source=WWN_Facebook_Page&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=Social_Link&utm_content=Article

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