Mark Minasi's Tech Forum
Sign up Calendar Latest Topics
 
 
 


Reply
  Author   Comment   Page 6 of 6     «   Prev   3   4   5   6
wobble_wobble

Avatar / Picture

Associate Troublemaker Apprentice
Registered:
Posts: 910
Reply with quote  #76 
So this will continue.
Kinda funny that WhatsApp is announcing it's secure.
Didn't Snowden mention that the security forces have brute force methods for SSL decryption.

__________________
Have you tried turning it off and walking away? The next person can fix it!

New to the forum? Read this
0
DennisMCSE

Senior Member
Registered:
Posts: 173
Reply with quote  #77 
Like I said before, it will end up in the courts again soon. Even the FBI director says that since their hack only works on a subset of iPhones, they will have to go to court again if they need to access another phone. So they just should have finished the court case now and sorted all this out instead of backing out of the case.

Yeah, WhatsApp now has end-to-end encryption:

WhatsApp and the backdoor battle
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35978532



0
wobble_wobble

Avatar / Picture

Associate Troublemaker Apprentice
Registered:
Posts: 910
Reply with quote  #78 
Heres the funny thing, I love that the encryption is there. 
Well done to the engineers that managed to push that out to us all.

New solutions will have to be gotten to view the messages inline, if the cops want to "watch" or listen in.
There will be a rise in the 'Delete WhatsApp' messages and other social media messages, because will the bad guys trust Apple to say we didn't let the FBI in.

And yes, the FBI will continue the fight against Apple.
I wonder when will Google/ Android get dragged in.
I know some time ago Microsoft claimed and boasted that their new Windows Mobile Devices were the securest yet when 8 or 8.1 was released. 
Can't find the article itself, but found this - http://betanews.com/2015/06/11/windows-phone-security-is-top-notch-says-kaspersky/


__________________
Have you tried turning it off and walking away? The next person can fix it!

New to the forum? Read this
0
donoli

Senior Member
Registered:
Posts: 598
Reply with quote  #79 
Quote:
FBI director says unlocking method won't work on newer iPhones


That was the argument to get Apple to write a program to unlock the phone which doesn't matter anymore, even if it's true. Some people said that having a 3rd party unlock the phone made it appear that Apple's security is not what they advertised. It might backfire & be an advertisement to buy new iphones. 

In the San Bernadino case, there is still another layer of encryption that needs to be cracked which has nothing to do with Apple.  The terrorists weren't that stupid not to encrypt the communication.
0
DennisMCSE

Senior Member
Registered:
Posts: 173
Reply with quote  #80 
Quote:
Originally Posted by donoli

 
In the San Bernadino case, there is still another layer of encryption that needs to be cracked which has nothing to do with Apple.  The terrorists weren't that stupid not to encrypt the communication.


Oddly enough, I don't know if that true. From most of the articles that came out of the Paris and Brussels attacks, the terrorists didn't use encryption to protect their communication, they used burner phones that were used once and thrown away. Which is why I said earlier in this thread that I don't believe the FBI would find anything on the iPhone in the San Bernardino case (which was a work phone not a personal phone). The terrorists wouldn't use a work phone that they had no control over to communicate about plans for what they were going to do.

Paris attackers didn’t use encrypted iPhones or Internet services
http://bgr.com/2016/03/22/paris-attacks-iphone-encryption/

"So does encryption protect terrorists who plan bombings such as the ones in Brussels, Ankara, Paris, and other cities? Yes, it probably does. But investigators in the Paris case have found out that it’s not encrypted iPhones or Android devices, and it’s not encrypted Internet services that helped attackers carry out a highly choreographed attack on the French capital. Instead, they used disposable, burner phones, which they kept changing on a regular basis.

Well aware that intelligence agencies have sophisticated data collection tools in place, including ways of flagging potentially suspect encrypted chats and/or calls, the suicide bombers involved in the Paris attacks used burner phones, The New York Times reports."


0
donoli

Senior Member
Registered:
Posts: 598
Reply with quote  #81 
You're probably right that nothing was found. It's true that it was a county work phone which means that it wasn't a burner phone.  If the Feds knew that only burner phones were used, why were they so bent on unlocking the work phone?  It doesn't make sense. I have a feeling that they just want the case to go away.

I don't trust reports in the corporate media such as the NY Times.  They have a long time marriage with the CIA. You can google that.  Secondly, a reporter named Jason Blare admittedly wrote 36 fake articles for the Times. You can google that too. Finally, John Markoff wrote a fictional account, on the Kevin Mitnick case which became a shot lived movie called Takedown.  I just don't trust those people.

0
wobble_wobble

Avatar / Picture

Associate Troublemaker Apprentice
Registered:
Posts: 910
Reply with quote  #82 
Quote:
Originally Posted by donoli
You're probably right that nothing was found. It's true that it was a county work phone which means that it wasn't a burner phone.  If the Feds knew that only burner phones were used, why were they so bent on unlocking the work phone?  It doesn't make sense. I have a feeling that they just want the case to go away.

I don't trust reports in the corporate media such as the NY Times.  They have a long time marriage with the CIA. You can google that.  Secondly, a reporter named Jason Blare admittedly wrote 36 fake articles for the Times. You can google that too. Finally, John Markoff wrote a fictional account, on the Kevin Mitnick case which became a shot lived movie called Takedown.  I just don't trust those people.



    paraniod.JPG 


__________________
Have you tried turning it off and walking away? The next person can fix it!

New to the forum? Read this
0
donoli

Senior Member
Registered:
Posts: 598
Reply with quote  #83 
He must have been a great philosopher, suicide at 46.
0
DennisMCSE

Senior Member
Registered:
Posts: 173
Reply with quote  #84 
Gray hat hackers, not Israel-based Cellebrite, ultimately provided a way into Syed Farook's encrypted iPhone, according to the Washington Post.

http://www.informationweek.com/government/cybersecurity/fbi-paid-hackers-to-crack-iphone-encryption-report-claims/d/d-id/1325113


0
donoli

Senior Member
Registered:
Posts: 598
Reply with quote  #85 
It's certainly possible. I wouldn't dispute it.
0
Previous Topic | Next Topic
Print
Reply

Quick Navigation:

Easily create a Forum Website with Website Toolbox.