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nikolas.e

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Hi everyone. Hope you are good.


we have a 2003 server in our network acting as a scan server.(Scans from copier saved to that pc in pdf format. Its not a server its a pc and it is not currently taking a lot of storage space. I was thinking how easy is to use this tool by Mark Russinovich to create a vhd image and setup that image on a hyper-v server? i read it can be done online. This means no downtime for the system?

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Note: The reason i am asking this is because sometimes this pc frezzes with out reason and people cannot scan. Sometimes not always.

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Hi,

Disk2VHD simply copies the contents of the disk to a VHD file. While the copy process as such is online, you will certainly get some downtime needed for the post-migration cleanup (everything hardware-related, stale NICs, redo the IP configuration and so on).

Depending on what your server is booting from, the VM may or may not boot off the VHD straight away. On the other hand, since the copy process as such will not incur any downtime, you can experiment with the disk image quite freely. If possible, you should disable the antivirus for the duration of the imaging process.

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Just remember that Server 2003 is no longer supported by Microsoft. Since it's only saving scans in a PDF format, and it's not a real server anyway since it's just a PC, why not upgrade to some newer OS or create a new VM from scratch?

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Hi,

Disk2VHD simply copies the contents of the disk to a VHD file. While the copy process as such is online, you will certainly get some downtime needed for the post-migration cleanup (everything hardware-related, stale NICs, redo the IP configuration and so on).

Depending on what your server is booting from, the VM may or may not boot off the VHD straight away. On the other hand, since the copy process as such will not incur any downtime, you can experiment with the disk image quite freely. If possible, you should disable the antivirus for the duration of the imaging process.


Thank you cj. What i am planning to do then is create the vhd and load it on a test hyper-v outside our network. Test it and if all goes well apply it to our production. Hopefully.


O wait it is joined on our domain my bad. this means i need to test the vhd if i get the task to do it on production network.

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Just remember that Server 2003 is no longer supported by Microsoft. Since it's only saving scans in a PDF format, and it's not a real server anyway since it's just a PC, why not upgrade to some newer OS or create a new VM from scratch?



Hi Dennis. yes i know actually i have been thinking different ways how to do it. It is not a difficult task to create the folder structure on windows 2008r2(Share the folder and apply permissions for subfolders)+Setup new path for the copiers to scan. And when all is working good to move the files there. We are talking about a size of some gigabytes. Either vhd or physical server it will do the job. About 2003 server. Well yeah it is not supported but then again who am i to change boss decisions? hahaha am just a technician following orders. In between i like to learn more just like this disk2vhd i discovered yesterday [smile]

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Hi Nicolas,

I'v done that with my WinXP machine at the time. I remember I had to overwrite hal.dll and ntoskrnl.exe to make it function on a VM.
Those file can be extracted from the install CD/DVD. Had something to do with multiprocessor (hardware) to uniprocessor (virtual).

http://kendrickcoleman.com/index.php/Tech-Blog/changing-hal.html
http://defaultreasoning.com/2011/07/08/change-the-hal-from-multiprocessor-to-uniprocessor-on-a-windows-2003-virtual-machine/
https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1013857

Good luck!

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Hi Nicolas,

I'v done that with my WinXP machine at the time. I remember I had to overwrite hal.dll and ntoskrnl.exe to make it function on a VM.
Those file can be extracted from the install CD/DVD. Had something to do with multiprocessor (hardware) to uniprocessor (virtual).

http://kendrickcoleman.com/index.php/Tech-Blog/changing-hal.html
http://defaultreasoning.com/2011/07/08/change-the-hal-from-multiprocessor-to-uniprocessor-on-a-windows-2003-virtual-machine/
https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1013857

Good luck!


Hi Pieter thanks for the info much appreciated.

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Can’t recommendthis approach. 2003 can sometimes be tough to get running properly when p2v’d.

Assuming you have a scanner/copier that can easily be repointed to another hostname, is just combine a couple of robocopy passes to an existing server with an export/import of the reg key holding the share info.
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Can’t recommendthis approach. 2003 can sometimes be tough to get running properly when p2v’d. Assuming you have a scanner/copier that can easily be repointed to another hostname, is just combine a couple of robocopy passes to an existing server with an export/import of the reg key holding the share info.


Thanks wes. I prefer to keep things as simple as possible so i guess i will go with the method of moving the files to different host server and demote the bloody pc from out network running 2003. [smile]

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2003 has one issue on some P2V (or V2V) and that is re-arming on the new hardware. I have not figured out the full reasons why, but some just will not move.

Make sure it's at SP2 as a min otherwise 2016 hyper-v integration tools won't work.

I used to do a lot of conversions. Then they stopped for the last 4 or 5 years. Now I'm back looking at 2k, 2K3 servers again.
Thankfully VMWARE still supports those and older (ffs)

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I've seen a lot of cases where 2003 (and even 2008 non-r2) somehow don't get the integration services loaded right and take forever and a lot of tweaking to get the nic to finally show up and function.  Very annoying if you're trying to work within a specific window of time.
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I've seen a lot of cases where 2003 (and even 2008 non-r2) somehow don't get the integration services loaded right and take forever and a lot of tweaking to get the nic to finally show up and function.  Very annoying if you're trying to work within a specific window of time.


Hidden NIC'S claiming the address.
Remove all old and hidden NIC'S then tcp reset if necessary.

Last thing is to extract the Hyper-V tools and try installing from local file.

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