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mbarry

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Hello all -

I was hoping to get some good opinions on whether or not to install Windows 10.  There are a few more days to do it for free, but I'm concerned about the articles that claim the OS is collecting a huge amount of data from each installation.

I would appreciate any input I can get.

Thanks!

Mike


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Google telemetry Win 10. There are hidden scheduled tasks which can be disabled in different ways.  One way is the schtasks.exe command.  Sooner or later, earlier versions of windows will not be supported so all windows users will be stuck with Win 10 eventually.
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But data collection is in everything you do online, not just on Windows 10 (here's the link to the Microsoft blog post about privacy https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/09/28/privacy-and-windows-10/ ).

If you're on the Internet, or on a network, data is being gathered about you whether you want it to or not. You can try limiting the information gathered, but you're still going to leave traces (via cookies or location services). Using Google or Google Maps? It knows where you start and where you end up and what you're looking for.

Here's a link to Google's Data Collection policy if you think the Microsoft one is bad, this is no different:
https://privacy.google.com/your-data.html

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But data collection is in everything you do online,


That's true but I only answered the question, in the original post.  There is an existing thread that pertains, to Google.
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Thanks for the input.  I went ahead and did the clean install, and am writing this from that system.  [smile]

I'm aware of Google's policies, and I don't like them much.  I'm going to lock the system down as much as I can.

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Did you disable the scheduled tasks that cover the telemetry?
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mbarry

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Not yet.  Tons of yardwork today and in my future.  I'll get to it, though.  Thanks for the help!  [smile]

Mike

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Isn't the telemetry stuff disabled/removed in the Enterprise Edition?

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It's not removed, it just has a different default setting (Enhanced).  If you want it turned off completely, you have to make it happen.

One of many articles:  http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-telemetry-secrets/
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First of all, it's a really bad idea to block the telemetry. 

The group policy in question has four settings, 0-3.  Setting 0 does indeed send nothing, but....

1) If you're running Pro, it ignores you and sets it to 1.
2) If you DO manage to set it to 0 -- possible only with Enterprise/Education -- then you no longer can control updates and upgrades.

Yup, it's a pain in the ass.  But those security updates seem like a good thing.

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Mark,

I get it that security updates are great and all, but I've had some patches break stuff in the past.  Important stuff.  Resume` generating stuff.  It would be nice to turn that crap off and allow it to happen in ye ole test network first before going into production.

I get the impression that Microsoft et al are trying to "break us all in" to the idea of having unplanned downtime so we won't complain about Azure so much.

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Can't complain about the uptime of Azure, that's brilliant. Things get broken by updates regurely, latest one is this: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askds/2016/06/22/deploying-group-policy-security-update-ms16-072-kb3163622/mm
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