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Back in 2012, I finally retired the Forum web server that had run between (IIRC) 2004 and halfway through 2012.  Most of our busiest days took place on that machine, like our busiest day ever -- that grim Boxing Day when the typhoon took so many lives. 

I decommissioned the server in 2012, but there's always the hard drives.  Storing old hard drives is, as you know, a little like storing plutonium.  They're dangerous and won't always be dangerous, but it's going to be a WHILE before they're safe.  So as I move, I've got a buddy who's a got a drill press, and KNOWS how to use it!

Over the years, three drives failed the three-spindle server, and they all the band back together to run one final drill.  Mission accomplished, and if you look closely, you can see the gold and silver flecks.  

It's funny that in the world of 2016, where datacenters each grind hundreds of drives to dust daily, that I got a little misty seeing the last of Web2.minasi.com, but I admit I did.  [smile]  It was a good old dog, and served me.... us... well.  One of the most fondly-remembered "pets," back in the days before "cattle, not pets."

 



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May they rest in pieces.

They are pets when we did it.
They are cows when they belong to someone else and we manage them.

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Wow!  Good job.  I could use a friend with a drill press too.  [smile]  Too many dang hard drives hanging around.
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Funny you compare them to pets ... for years I've said, "Some people have kids.  I have pets and servers."

I figure they all take some kind of care and feeding, and they don't always behave when you want them to. 

My first look thru the pic before reading the detail was that I figured them more ripe for target practice than drill press.  But then again, not sure it's worth the risk of a ricochet.  :-)
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Anne, it's a meme in server best practices nowadays.

Clouds tend to want cookie-cutter deployment tools and services that assume that systems will fail regularly but plan for it.  The notion is that one day soon you'll build a server simply by constructing some kind of set of "I want..." instructions, turn it loose on the OS and voila! you have a server... no spending five hours setting IP addresses, promoting DCs and such.  Desired State Configuration is one such tool.

The beauty of it is that if the server dies, no worries... DSC or something similar just automatically deploys a replacement, nothing has been lost and life is good.  Such servers are called "cattle."

In contrast, most of the servers that we deploy are very painstakingly hand-built, important and hard to RE-build.  They're "pets."

The difference?  Well, you name pets.  When Fluffy gets sick, it's a tragedy.  When Cow #34 kicks off, it's a barbeque.

So when you hear MSFT people talking about servers and apps, the phrase "treat servers/services like cattle, not pets," and the phrase is delivered derisively, as if only a fool would have any "pet" servers around.

I love the idea of cattle servers, but as far as I can see, we're still quite a ways from having a system that'd describe my web server to a "tee," and if I have to do the slightest amount of hand-tweaking on top of the DSC or whatever ,then it's still a pet.

As far as I can see, it's not going to be possible until I can hand-build my first server, run a wizard and get the DSC squirted out.  Then I'd be a cattle rancher.  [smile]



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Lets hope these don't hit Ludow's Pet Sematary. [smile]

Ps.    A 20 ton shop press does a nice job on drives also.

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"The gore-covered drives slowly lurched across his kitchen floor.  Something about the fact that while they were laughably slow that they were, nonetheless, absolutely unstoppable, sent a chill down his back.
*Come on*, he reassured himself, *what could a 3.5 inch hard drive do?*, and for the first time in ten minutes, he laughed.
But then he heard a dull metallic "clank," and was taken aback when the once internal -- and now infernal -- storage units shed their top covers.  Torx screws flew everywhere, and he very nearly lost the sight in one eye because of it.
What he saw, however, made him vaguely wish that he HADN'T his sight, for inside those drives were spinning platters...
... sharpened to razor's edges.
"Of course," he cried aloud.  How could he have forgotten:

These drives were... scuzzy.

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Great dream on the drives.   I have to admit that when you go into a server room or a cabinet room and have to shutdown ALL the servers and replace or move them, it's a almost sad feeling.   The quiet is incredible and for some of the machines, the question looms "Will they boot up again"?

Some times I could hear the "Whine" of the drives powering down and it reminded me of the exhalation of death.

So often the resuscitation process has not been very successful.  Proof of health problems undetected by the one size fits all server management software.

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And now SSDs just screw that up entirely.  Your only indication that the systems are running is the occasional rise of the fan volume. [smile]


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