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DennisMCSE

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Wow.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/14/the-fcc-officially-votes-to-kill-net-neutrality/

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donoli

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Various attorneys general have filed a lawsuit against the FCC. Who knows how long that will take to go through the courts? 

I was chatting with some computer users & I posed the question, Would using a VPN be a work around to avoid the ISPs blocking or throttling content?  As you already know, the ISP will only see encrypted traffic & won't be able to see what they want to throttle. Any thoughts on that?
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If you remember from last year, Netflix was cracking down on users that tried using a VPN to fake that they were in another country. So I doubt a VPN would avoid the ISP's blocking or throttling content.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/15/netflix-announces-crackdown-on-vpn-users

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That would be Netflix blocking the VPN not the ISP. The ISP wouldn't know where your connections are going. Personally, I don't use Netflix but it's good to know anyway.
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What did I miss? We never needed this previously, why did we need it now? I did not personally experience any blocking or speed degradation.
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It wouldn't be speed degradation across the board. Let's say that Lyft was in favor with the ISPs or whomever & you wanted to go to the Uber site. All of a sudden, it might take too long for the Uber site to load.

Or, say you were a radical leftist like me & you wanted to stream Democracy Now at 8AM EST  from
http://stream.wbai.org:8000/wbai_128

That stream maybe blocked or throttled by your fascist ISP. That's where you will see the loss.
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We're having this discussion over here as well. My opinion on this is that at some point in the future we may have to start paying extra for a 'neutral net access'.

It's nothing new really, think AOL.

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DennisMCSE

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I don't think the ISP's have started using the new rules yet, so not sure when it actually takes effect. But basically what will happen is that ISP's will have different tiers of service. Now it's basically tiers based on the downloads (for example 50GB, 100GB, or unlimited downloads) regardless of which website you go to. But with the new rules, ISP's can charge based on the sites you go to. So if you are just doing emails accessing some websites, you pay one price. If you want to go to Facebook or other social media sites, you pay a higher premium. If you want to do Netflix or other streaming sites, you pay a higher premium. Kind of like your cable bill, where if you just want local channels, you pay a basic rate, but if you want some news channels like CNN you pay a higher premium, and if you want movie channels like HBO, you pay more. It looks like if it does go through in the US, the ISP's in Canada are looking to do the same thing.

Here's an article that talks about what ISP's might do after

Op-Ed

After the death of net neutrality, what will the internet look like?
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-benenson-net-neutrality-future-20171218-story.html

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DennisMCSE

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And actually, here's an article talking about how Canada may follow what the US is doing if it gets finalized:

https://www.itworldcanada.com/article/net-neutrality-repeal-in-u-s-might-embolden-canadian-telecoms-to-follow-suit-says-cira-ceo/400005

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