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It’s 2016– And the future of Group Policy Is …?

http://sdmsoftware.com/technology-futures/2016-future-group-policy/


Interesting read.  Curious as to what others are seeing in their environments.

I have seen some where It is the first round of settings and compliance, others they have turned their backs on it since it became a convoluted monster...

I don't see how a Microsoft AD environment would "want" to run without it...


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It's the cloud.

If you live in a world populated by client endpoint devices that have actual hard disks, screens that people over the age of 28 can read, honest-to-God keyboards and RJ45 jacks that aren't USB, then the richness of GP's five-thousand-ish control settings is a godsend and you can't imagine why MS would turn their back on it.  So I'm guessing it'll be around for "real" Windows Desktop forever.

The reality, though, is that more and more our endpoints (as we all know) are things that don't run Windows, to the "target market" for GPOs is shrinking, and the target market for control of iOS, Android and the like is growing.

And growing QUICKLY.  Not sure what I can say without breaking NDA, but the growth of Intune as an MDM is an MSFT shareholder's dream.  That pustulent little abortion is one of their great victories, as they arrived late to the party but are sweeping the competition aside like broccoli off a child's plate.

Of course, that's my two cents' worth.  Darren will have more insight. 
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I really wish Intune would get their nonprofit pricing going.  Would love to switch to it from Panorama 9.
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I simply grow more and more frustrating with all the bells and whistles they add to the OSes that I now need to go into GP's to turn off. As the OS bloats, so do my GP's.

Why oh why can't MS give us a business OS that does not have all the bloatware in it?

(Longs for the days of Windows NT or 2000)
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Well first off--thanks for creating a GP section Mark [smile]

Second, I agree completely with what Mark is saying (well I said as much in my blog posting [smile]). GP is still strategic for most shops but it will change over time (slowly). I think it's too bad that folks are having to face the decision of going from a fairly capable, free and in the box technology like GP, to a for-pay solution like an MDM or Intune type product, but that's the reality of a heterogeneous world. Funny--things are kind of moving back to the bad old days when Novell ruled and you had to pay for a TCP/IP stack for your PC. But hey, freedom of choice has it's downsides...at least in technology.


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Oh, and "pustulent little abortion" IS a great name for a rock band.
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Group Policy had its bugaboos, but overall I love it!  It works, Its easy, If your running a Microsoft Domain it already been paid for.. FREE!!

So again, It works, its easy and its FREE!

Yeah lets ditch it and buy some cloud based tool that is awesome!! Except that,,,  "Well "YOUR" network is unique so this may not work exactly as promised and unfortunately is going to be a lot more expensive than thought.  But hey! Your in the cloud now.  Isn't it grand??"

Remember when an issue came up and you could hit someone up on Lync or walk to their office and ask "whats going on?"  Then work to get it fixed, documented and even learn something in the end..?



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Well, you know, Tim, if all of you people had skipped those iPhones, Android phones, iPads etc and dutifully purchased Surfaces and Windows Phones, we wouldn't be in this mess. [smile]

And Darren, apologies, I hadn't read your blog, wasn't thiefin'. [smile]

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Hey Darren,

good to see you! +1 for your comments.

> Its easy,

Tim, Darren and I make a living out of GPO being NOT easy [smile]

It is here to stay for a while still, that is clear. If you are a  new Windows admin, you need to learn this stuff.

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We are looking at finally getting a Group Policy Team put together...  Long overdue...
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I really wish Intune would get their nonprofit pricing going.  Would love to switch to it from Panorama 9.


Seemed to me that they're doing so well that they don't need to, unfortunately.  I hope for your sake it changes, though!

As far as I know, Intune is about the only thing that MVPs don't get.  If it's truly that much of a success then it seems a bad harbinger.

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Hi all, I'm going f***ng insane trying to get this sorted.  Doing a little side work for a client who has Intune - the full $11/mo job that includes windows enterprise licenses.

All I want is to get my hands on the MAK key so I can activate the Enterprise clients.  It's nowhere to be found in any of the THREE different intune portals (why the hell are there so many different portals) nor the semi-merged intune/o365 portal, or anywhere else that I can see.

Support is completely useless.  Intune support sends me to o365 support who doesn't have a clue, who sends me to "professional support" who sends me to "concierge support" who at least gives it a shot but ultimately just sends me to volume licensing (who's closed of course) and when I finally get them today and they reregister us of course there's no agreement and thus no key and they're like uhhhhhhhh what is this for again and I have to explain the whole thing over again and then they send me back to intune support.

How the hell do you get the key?

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Nobody knows how to go about getting the MAK key for an intune subscription?
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I don't have Intune yet so I can't try it out and I can't seem to find anything specific online, Wes.  It looks like Microsoft has screwed with Intune licensing enough that most of the blogs are wrong.  Sorry, wish I had more.
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No worries, Mark, after more hours bouncing around all the useless support departments, somehow I finally got someone with a clue and he showed me how to get there.  The page is so poorly written that when you go there, it makes it look like there is only one (useless) product to download.  Then you have to click a poorly worded link to make it expand out the entire product list and like 70 more products magically appear (including the windows downloads and keys)...
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